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Last post 10-09-2008 9:04 PM by Maid4Hire. 11 replies.
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  • 07-21-2008 10:06 PM

    • DSCC
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    insinuation of theft....

    So, I am hoping you all can help me with wording. I have a client who just called and left a message, vaguely insinuating that we may have taken an expensive piece of jewelry on our last clean. I called her back, left a message. Then called again 1/2 hour after that and actually got through. She nonchalantly let me know "oops! she found it" and ended the conversation quickly. She didn't give me time to address her insinuation and I am wondering if I should call her on it or let it drop.

     She is a very messy client who leaves valuables throughout her house and this is the 2nd time I have gotten a call about missing items. I would like to just cancel her account as I do not feel comfortable cleaning for her if she doesn't trust us. However, she is my highest paying client and I really can't afford to lose her account. I am worried that she thinks of us when she loses something and she is also a lawyer!!

     Any ideas on how to approach this issue?

     Jamila

    Jamila

    "Life is hard; it's harder if you're stupid."
    -John Wayne
  • 07-21-2008 10:45 PM In reply to

    Re: insinuation of theft....

     Hi there!

     You bring up a valid concern.  If it were me (and others may have better advice) I would let her know via email that the security of your home is very important to you and if she ever feels that anything is truly missing, please notify the police immediately.  She will probably be a little more careful (and tactful) in her approach the next time something leaves her sight.

    I insist that my clients immediately call the police to file a report.  It only happened once (but that was too many) but sometimes people misplace items and if they know they have to file a police report, they may be less apt to jump the gun and go FIND where they put it.  If it is truly gone, they know you will do everything by the book and assist them in helping resolve the situation.

     I hope that helps.  

    Torrey, NCPC Moderator
    Owner, Tailored Maid Services
    email me: Torrey@tailoredmaid.com
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  • 07-21-2008 11:01 PM In reply to

    • DSCC
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    Re: insinuation of theft....

    Hi Torrey. Thanks for the advice:)

    Both times she phrased her message in a way that didn't accuse us. Instead she asked if we had "seen it during our visit" then made reference to how expensive the item was. I almost feel that she wanted to see what our response was, maybe as a test of guilt. we will see what she says before the next visit. I will bring up the trust concerns and see what her response is.

    Jamila

    "Life is hard; it's harder if you're stupid."
    -John Wayne
  • 07-22-2008 1:55 AM In reply to

    Re: insinuation of theft....

     It certainly is a delicate situation.  I had one woman who we cleaned her home for free (cancer patient).  Her house was a bit unkept and cluttered.  She was always misplacing things.  She would call me after 9pm hoping to "find" something with our extra sets of eyes having been in the home earlier that day.  At first I wondered if she was giving a sideways accusation of theft because she was very careful not to accuse us...but then after a few times I realized she just needed help FINDING stuff.  LOL  She hoped we could help her in her disarray.  

     That may be the case with your client too.  You really have to know the client, their clutter and organizational situation, and weigh that in too.

    Torrey, NCPC Moderator
    Owner, Tailored Maid Services
    email me: Torrey@tailoredmaid.com
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  • 07-22-2008 12:48 PM In reply to

    • manmaid
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    Re: insinuation of theft....

    I don't think I would tell the customer to call the police but have them inform you asap if something is missing so you can address it first.
    Once a report is taken and the ding bat finds what was missing she might not inform the police because of the embarrassment
    I've told a few customers to put away money and valuables even though it's just me cleaning. It's not hard to vacuum up an ear ring, etc. I leave my trash bag in their can incase they feel froggy and want to look through the crap.   One of my customers had their kid (17) at home during the summer with a few of his friends over and I didn't like them leaving money laying around in case on of the yutes snags it and I get the evil eye...

    Some times people get freaked when they can't find something right after a clean and may  word their questions to you without giving them much thought.    An established customer should trust you and your help.

    Calling the cops doesn't get a whole lot done since theft from a home is almost impossible to prove especially with employees.

     

     

  • 07-22-2008 1:41 PM In reply to

    Re: insinuation of theft....

     The reason why I recommend having the client file a police report is that insurance will not pay for a claim without it.  It covers you legally if you decide to handle it internally (which I did in the past for a presumed theft).  If you delay a report for any length of time, then the insurance questions why it wasn't reported quickly enough.  It's the foundation for any legal action or payment via your insurance, and covers you when you decide to handle it yourself.  :)

    Torrey, NCPC Moderator
    Owner, Tailored Maid Services
    email me: Torrey@tailoredmaid.com
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  • 07-22-2008 4:16 PM In reply to

    • manmaid
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    Re: insinuation of theft....

    I understand the reason to file the police report I just thought it was better to have the customer contact me before calling the police...

    If there were more than one cleaner I find it hard to believe the thief could be identified and found guilty in court which is when the bonding kicks in.

     

  • 07-22-2008 11:28 PM In reply to

    Re: insinuation of theft....

     Manmaid,

    I apologize, I somehow read your post incorrectly.  I agree that I would want the client to contact me first and then go to the next step of filing a report.  In my case, there were three cleaners present at the time of the alleged theft and the police were unable to resolve it.  And, as you said, unless there is a conviction, the bonding insurance will not pay.  However, I felt that if the client asserted themselves enough to file a report, I should make good on it.  People who file a report have pretty much exhausted any doubt that it is not misplaced but actually missing due to no fault of their own.

     In our case, I replaced the missing item and kept the client.  Strangely, the girl we suspected of doing it quit the same day it happened (but before the homeowner noticed the missing item).  We figured she did it but we couldn't prove it. 

     My point is that once someone tosses out an allegation that you are somehow involved in the missing item, I expect them to follow through with proper procedures to resolve the issue.  If they are willing to assert that it TRULY is a missing item, they will not think twice about filing a report.  You never know...if there was a theft, the police investigation may recover the item even if they don't find out who did it.  ;)

    Torrey, NCPC Moderator
    Owner, Tailored Maid Services
    email me: Torrey@tailoredmaid.com
    FREE forms and downloads for service owners: www.tailoredmaid.com/forms.aspx
  • 07-22-2008 11:32 PM In reply to

    • DSCC
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    Re: insinuation of theft....

    Thanks for all of the info. I think I am going to write her an e-mail or letter laying out the issue just to get it out in the open. If she does not trust us in her house, I am not comfortable cleaning there. I'll let you all know what her response is.

     Again thanks! all of your posts have helped me build my business this year and the learning is invaluable!

     :)

    Jamila

    "Life is hard; it's harder if you're stupid."
    -John Wayne
  • 10-09-2008 6:02 PM In reply to

    Re: insinuation of theft....

    I recently had a client call me after our girls went to the home to clean as usual on her bi-weekly visit. She asked me I knew where the cleaner(s) had put her Black IPOD, When I asked the cleaners one of them said there was a black one and a white one and she put them on top of the entertainment center in the living room (removed from coffee table) The customer said when she gets home she will look, 2 days later she called to say she still did not find it. I advised her to call the police because yes with out the report we can not file a claim. 2 days later the customer calls to tell me she would like to cancel her service. I asked her if she called the police because we are waiting for the report and she said no it is not necessary and hung up. HMMM so what does that mean? She found it and is embarrased? she said it was worth $300.00. Her bi-weekly cleaning is $173.00. I don't get it.

     Shanna

    Let Us Give You Your Saturday's Back!..
    Maid 4 Hire
    (585)235-3038
    Http://www.maids4hire.net
  • 10-09-2008 8:40 PM In reply to

    • DSCC
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    • Tucson, AZ
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    Re: insinuation of theft....

    Hi Shanna,

     I bet she did not find it and decided not to file a report because she figured she couldn't prove it was taken by the cleaning company. Of course, you and I both know she will eventually find it and then probably feel stupid.How long has she been a client? If she is willing to drop service like that without trying to resolve the issue, then you may be better off without her. It's hard though to lose a client especially during these lean times:(

    Jamila

    "Life is hard; it's harder if you're stupid."
    -John Wayne
  • 10-09-2008 9:04 PM In reply to

    Re: insinuation of theft....

    Your so right, She has been a client since April which makes it hard becasue like I said she was Bi-weekly and her rate was $173.00 but hey what can I do. I have never had an issue with theft. I use a staffing company for my cleaning girls and I know for a fact they do an extensive background investigation on all the applicants. But your probaby right.

    Thanks for the reply

    Shanna

    Let Us Give You Your Saturday's Back!..
    Maid 4 Hire
    (585)235-3038
    Http://www.maids4hire.net
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