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  • 01-25-2006 6:55 PM

    • tjoseph
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    Employee or Contractor

    The Employment Development Department of California publishes a worksheet to determine if a person you are hiring is an employee or a contractor. This topic seems to come up a lot and it is very frustrating for me. I try to follow the laws and it is more expensive to pay taxes and buy workers comp than to pay workers as independent contractors and 1099 them. This makes my operating costs much higher than my competitors and it is hard to charge higher rates because the residential customers just don't seem to care if a business is operating legally or not. I think that the law is clear that in most cases cleaning workers cannot be treated as independent contractors.

    http://www.edd.ca.gov/taxrep/de38.pdf

    WORKSHEET ON EMPLOYMENT STATUS

    Questions 1 – 3 are significant questions. If the answer to any of them is "Yes," it is a strong indication that the worker is an employee, and you have a high probability of risk if you classify
    the worker as an independent contractor.

    1. Do you instruct or supervise the person while he or she
    is working?
    Independent contractors are free to do jobs in their own
    way, using specific methods they choose. A person or
    firm engages an independent contractor for the job#%92s end
    result. When a worker is required to follow company
    procedure manuals and/or is given specific instructions on
    how to perform the work, the worker is normally an
    employee.
    Yes _____ No _____

    2. Can the worker quit or be discharged (fired) at any
    time?
    If you have the right to fire the worker without notice, it
    indicates that you have the right to control the worker.
    Independent contractors are engaged to do specific jobs
    and cannot be fired before the job is complete unless they
    violate the terms of the contract. They are not free to quit
    and walk away until the job is complete. For example, if a
    shoe store owner hires an attorney to review his or her
    lease, the attorney would get paid only after satisfactory
    completion of the job.
    Yes _____ No _____

    3. Is the work being performed part of your regular
    business?
    Work which is a necessary part of the regular trade or
    business is normally done by employees. For example, a
    sales clerk is selling shoes in a shoe store. A shoe store
    owner could not operate without sales clerks to sell shoes.
    On the other hand, a plumber engaged to fix the pipes in
    the bathroom of the store is performing a service on a onetime
    or occasional basis that is not an essential part of the
    purpose of the business enterprise. A certified public
    accountant engaged to prepare tax returns and financial
    statements for the business would also be an example of
    an independent contractor.
    Yes _____ No _____

    A "No" answer to questions 4 – 6 indicates that the individual is not in a business for himself or herself and would therefore normally be an employee.

    4. Does the worker have a separately established
    business?
    When individuals hold themselves out to the general public
    as available to perform services similar to those performed
    for you, it is evidence that the individuals are operating
    separately established businesses and would normally be
    independent contractors. Independent contractors are
    free to hire employees and assign the work to others in
    any way they choose. Independent contractors have the
    authority to fire their employees without your knowledge or
    consent. Independent contractors can normally advertise
    their services in newspapers and/or publications, yellow
    page listings, and/or seek new customers through the use
    of business cards.
    Yes _____ No _____

    5. Is the worker free to make business decisions which
    affect his or her ability to profit from the work?
    An individual is normally an independent contractor when
    he or she is free to make business decisions which impact
    his or her ability to profit or suffer a loss. This involves real
    economic risk, not just the risk of not getting paid. These
    decisions would normally involve the acquisition, use,
    and/or disposition of equipment, facilities, and stock in trade
    which are under his or her control. Further examples of the
    ability to make economic business decisions include the
    amount and type of advertising for the business, the priority
    in which assignments are worked, and selection of the
    types and amounts of insurance coverage for the business.
    Yes _____ No _____

    6. Does the individual have a substantial investment which
    would subject him or her to a financial risk of loss?
    Independent contractors furnish the tools, equipment, and
    supplies needed to perform the work. Independent
    contractors normally have an investment in the items
    needed to complete their tasks. To the extent necessary
    for the specific type of business, independent contractors
    provide their own business facility.
    Yes _____ No _____

    Questions 7 – 13 are additional factors that should be considered. A "Yes" answer to any of the questions is an indication the worker may be an employee, but no one factor by itself is
    deciding. All factors must be considered and weighed together to determine which type of relationship exists. However, the greater the number of "Yes" answers to questions 7 – 13 the greater the likelihood the worker is performing services as an employee.
    7. Do you have employees who do the same type of work?
    If the work being done is basically the same as work that is
    normally done by your employees, it indicates that the
    worker is an employee. This applies even if the work is
    being done on a one-time basis. For instance, to handle an
    extra workload or replace an employee who is on vacation,
    a worker is hired to fill in on a temporary basis. This worker
    is a temporary employee, not an independent contractor.
    (Note: If you contract with a temporary agency to provide
    you with a worker, the worker is normally an employee but
    may be an employee of the temporary agency. You may
    wish to request EDD#%92s DE 231F, Information Sheet:
    Temporary Services and Employee Leasing Industries, on
    the subject of temporary service and leasing employers.)
    Yes _____ No _____

    8. Do you furnish the tools, equipment, or supplies used to
    perform the work?
    Independent business people furnish the tools, equipment,
    and supplies needed to perform the work. Independent
    contractors normally have an investment in the items
    needed to complete their tasks.
    Yes _____ No _____

    9. Is the work considered unskilled or semi-skilled labor?
    The courts and the California Unemployment Insurance
    Appeals Board have held that workers who are considered
    unskilled or semi-skilled are the type of workers the law is
    meant to protect and are generally employees.
    Yes _____ No _____

    10. Do you provide training for the worker?
    In skilled or semi-skilled work, independent contractors
    usually do not need training. If training is required to do the
    task, it is an indication that the worker is an employee.
    Yes _____ No _____

    11. Is the worker paid a fixed salary, an hourly wage, or
    based on a piece rate basis?
    Independent contractors agree to do a job and bill for the
    service performed. Payments to independent contractors
    for labor or services are made upon the completion of the
    project or completion of the performance of specific
    portions of the project.
    Yes _____ No _____

    12. Did the worker previously perform the same or similar
    services for you as an employee?
    If the worker previously performed the same or similar
    services for you as an employee, it is an indication that the
    individual is still an employee.
    Yes _____ No _____

    13. Does the worker believe that he or she is an employee?
    Although belief of the parties is not controlling, intent of the
    parties is a factor to consider when making an employment
    or independent contractor determination. When both the
    worker and principal believe the worker is an independent
    contractor, an argument exists to support an independent
    contractor relationship between the parties.
    Yes _____ No _____

    Interpretations of Answers

    Depending on the services being performed and the type of occupation, this questionnaire may produce a variety of results. There may be some factors which lean toward employment and some which lean toward independence. The answers to questions 1 – 6
    provide a strong indication of the presence or absence of direction and control. The answers to questions 7 – 13 when joined with other evidence may carry greater weight when indicating the presence or absence of direction and control.

    1. If all of the answers to questions 1 – 3 are "No" and all of the answers to questions 4 – 6 are "Yes," there is an indication of independence. When this is the case, there are likely to be a number of "No" answers to questions 7 – 13 which add to the support of the
    determination.

    2. If all of the answers to questions 1 – 3 are "Yes" and all of the answers to questions 4 – 6 are "No," it is very strong indication that the worker in question is an employee. When this is the case, there are likely to be a number of "Yes" answers to questions 7 – 13
    which add to the support of the determination.

    3. If the answer to question 1 or 2 is "Yes" or the answer to any one of questions 4 – 6 is "No," there is a likelihood of employment. At the very least, this pattern of answers makes the determination more difficult since the responses to questions 7 – 13 will probably be mixed. In such situations, the business owner would be well advised to complete a DE 1870, giving all of the facts of the working relationship and requesting a ruling from EDD.

    4. If the answer to question 3 is "Yes" and the answer to question 4 is "No," there is a likelihood of employment. Given this pattern of answers, it is probable that the answers to questions 5 and 6 will also be "No." When this happens you may also see more "Yes" answers to the last group of questions (7 – 13). This scenario would support an employment determination.

    These four scenarios illustrate only a few combinations of answers that could result from the use of this Employment Determination Guide, depending on the working relationship a principal may have with a worker and the type of occupation. The more the pattern of
    answers vary from the above four situations, the more difficult it is to interpret them. In situations 1 and 2, there is a greater chance that the interpretation will be accurate, and they present the least risk to the business owner of misclassifying the worker. With other combinations of answers, EDD recommends that business owners complete a DE 1870, giving a complete description of the working relationship and requesting a ruling from the Department.

    NOTE: Some agent or commission drivers, traveling or city salespeople, homeworkers, artists, authors, and workers in the construction industry are employees by law even if they would otherwise be considered independent contractors under common law.
    If you are dealing with workers in any of these fields, request the DE 231SE, Information Sheet: Statutory Employees, from the employment Tax Customer Service Office.

    SOME EXAMPLES OF INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS AND COMMON LAW EMPLOYEES

    Independent Contractors

    An attorney or accountant who has his or
    her own office, advertises in the yellow
    pages of the phone book under "Attorneys"
    or "Accountants," bills clients by the hour, is
    engaged by the job or paid an annual
    retainer, and can hire a substitute to do the
    work is an example of an independent
    contractor.

    An auto mechanic who has a station
    license, a resale license, buys the parts
    necessary for the repairs, sets his or her
    own prices, collects from the customer,
    sets his or her own hours and days of
    work, and owns or rents the shop from a
    third party is an example of an
    independent contractor.

    Dance instructors who select their own
    dance routines to teach, locate and rent
    their own facilities, provide their own sound
    systems, music and clothing, collect fees
    from customers, and are free to hire
    assistants are examples of independent
    contractors.

    A repairperson who owns or rents a shop,
    advertises the services to the public,
    furnishes all of the tools, equipment, and
    supplies necessary to make repairs, sets
    the price for services, and collects from the
    customers is an example of an independent
    contractor.

    Employees

    An attorney or accountant who is employed
    by a firm to handle their legal affairs or
    financial records, works in an office at the
    firm#%92s place of business, attends meetings
    as needed, and the firm bills the clients and
    pays the attorney or accountant on a
    regular basis is an example of an
    employee.

    An auto mechanic working in someone#%92s
    shop who is paid a percentage of the work
    billed to the customer, where the owner of
    the shop sets the prices, hours, and days
    the shop is open, schedules the work, and
    collects from the customers is an example
    of an employee.

    Dance instructors working in a health club
    where the club sets hours of work, the
    routines to be taught and pays the
    instructors from fees collected from the
    customers are examples of employees.

    A repairperson working in a shop where
    the owner sets the prices, the hours and
    days the shop is open, and the
    repairperson is paid a percentage of the
    work done is an example of an employee.

    NOTE: Payroll tax audits conducted by EDD have disclosed misclassified workers in virtually
    every type and size of business. However, certain industries seem more prone to
    have a higher number of misclassified workers than others. Historically, industries at
    higher risk of having misclassified workers include businesses that use:
    • Construction workers
    • Seasonal workers
    • Short-term or "casual" workers
    • Outside salespersons
  • 01-25-2006 7:04 PM In reply to

    Re: Employee or Contractor

    Good stuff Tom. Pretty much clears up any questions one would have on the subject.
  • 01-25-2006 11:55 PM In reply to

    • Chaffman
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    • Glen Burnie Maryland USA
    • Posts 786

    Re: Employee or Contractor

    We need to put Tom's post in the FAQ section for everyones future reference.
  • 01-26-2006 3:36 AM In reply to

    Re: Employee or Contractor

    Good stuff, Tom. And this pretty much parallels the IRS test for independent contractor status...

    Tom - if you'll repost this in commercial, I'll make this one a "sticky" so it's always up front of all the posts.
  • 02-24-2008 4:56 PM In reply to

    Re: Employee or Contractor

    Great post........Great information. Very important to read this for those who are trying to save some cost.

    Joshua
    Spotless Janitorial Services
  • 03-13-2008 1:18 AM In reply to

    • SpectroPro
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    • Joined on 03-01-2008
    • Hamilton, Ohio (KHAO)
    • Posts 63

    Re: Employee or Contractor

     Do a survey of the local area.  I would just about guarantee that anyone who lets people into their homes, damned well does care if the business is running legally.  I also bet that they care if the company they hire is insured and bonded.  From what I know (at least in Ohio), you can't insure people that don't work for you (employee) and you can't bond them either.  Thus, if you hire sub contractors, they MUST carry their own insurance and bonding.  And guess what.  THEY DON'T!!!!!

    If I am wrong, then I'll stop doing business.  But I know I am not.  You need to put little things like that on your business cards, your advertising, your mailings, your phone message, etc....  Make sure people know that you are insurred, bonded, pay workers comp for your employees, etc...  Trust me, people that are willing to pay for someone to clean their home, will care who is in it.  

    Sample little thing you can add to your ads:

    'Do you trust who is in your home? Are they insured should something happen? Do they care about quality work?.... At (company), we never use sub-contractors in your home. All of our employees are trained to complete every job with the same exceptionally high standards that you demand.  They are all insured and bonded. We may not be the cheapest, but we are the best, and we prove it every day!'

    Try that.  Put a note on your web site (if you have one) why people should NOT use a company that uses sub-contractors.  Explain why you do things the way you do.  Why you may charge a bit more.  People will pay for security and peace of mind.  Make sure they know you offer it, and the others do NOT!

    - Greg

    Greg Swagler, Owner
    http://www.allclene.com

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